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		<title>By: fivemcclungs</title>
		<link>http://drawingonthepromises.com/classless-design.htm/comment-page-1#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>fivemcclungs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments Katharino. I&#039;m sorry Blogger ate them. I vow to one day soon port B-L-A-N-K over to the eternal bliss of WordPress or some other reputable blog application. Until then, we&#039;re in Blogger purgatory.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I know I&#039;ve overstated the case, as usual, to bring something into the light that couldn&#039;t be seen with nuances. You are correct, some design is more effective than others. And helping clients define for each project what effective is for them may be the best route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments Katharino. I&#8217;m sorry Blogger ate them. I vow to one day soon port B-L-A-N-K over to the eternal bliss of WordPress or some other reputable blog application. Until then, we&#8217;re in Blogger purgatory.</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;ve overstated the case, as usual, to bring something into the light that couldn&#8217;t be seen with nuances. You are correct, some design is more effective than others. And helping clients define for each project what effective is for them may be the best route.</p>
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		<title>By: katharhino</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bother... blogger ate my comment. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can&#039;t remember everything I had said, but I think the gist of it was this: Dijon vs. yellow mustard is a matter of personal preference only. Good, effective design vs. bad design is not. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I do hear what you are saying, because I think it&#039;s very easy for designers to be snobby, self-satisfied, or defensive about what they do. It&#039;s important for us to be open to new ideas even if they come from a *gasp* non-designer.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There are times when it&#039;s not ok for the client to choose the weaker design. Weaker designers are weaker because they don&#039;t work as well, aren&#039;t as attractive, or aren&#039;t as creative and interesting. Shouldn&#039;t we rather try to communicate WHY one is better than another? Otherwise, what would be the point of trying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bother&#8230; blogger ate my comment. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember everything I had said, but I think the gist of it was this: Dijon vs. yellow mustard is a matter of personal preference only. Good, effective design vs. bad design is not. </p>
<p>I do hear what you are saying, because I think it&#8217;s very easy for designers to be snobby, self-satisfied, or defensive about what they do. It&#8217;s important for us to be open to new ideas even if they come from a *gasp* non-designer.</p>
<p>But&#8230;</p>
<p>There are times when it&#8217;s not ok for the client to choose the weaker design. Weaker designers are weaker because they don&#8217;t work as well, aren&#8217;t as attractive, or aren&#8217;t as creative and interesting. Shouldn&#8217;t we rather try to communicate WHY one is better than another? Otherwise, what would be the point of trying?</p>
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		<title>By: Katharhino</title>
		<link>http://drawingonthepromises.com/classless-design.htm/comment-page-1#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>Katharhino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear what you&#039;re saying, because I think it&#039;s very easy for designers to get snobby about what we do. And snobbiness leads to defensiveness and unwillingness to let anyone else participate because they might &quot;steal&quot; work from us. Or maybe it&#039;s the other way around. Anyway, I do know what you mean. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But... there&#039;s a problem with your argument. Dijon vs. yellow mustard may be a matter of personal preference, but there is definitely an objective measurement of bad--that is, ineffective, unattractive design. It&#039;s not a matter of class, it&#039;s a matter of real standards. Sometimes, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear what you&#8217;re saying, because I think it&#8217;s very easy for designers to get snobby about what we do. And snobbiness leads to defensiveness and unwillingness to let anyone else participate because they might &#8220;steal&#8221; work from us. Or maybe it&#8217;s the other way around. Anyway, I do know what you mean. </p>
<p>But&#8230; there&#8217;s a problem with your argument. Dijon vs. yellow mustard may be a matter of personal preference, but there is definitely an objective measurement of bad&#8211;that is, ineffective, unattractive design. It&#8217;s not a matter of class, it&#8217;s a matter of real standards. Sometimes, anyway.</p>
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